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    Originally posted by Cujo31
    I have been at that board for a little while following it. Bud and I have been emailing eachother about a few things. He really HATES waterless washes such as the Dry-Wash stuff and Spray & Wipe. He commented about the S&W stuff in his first email to me.. LOL He seems to know his stuff and since I get that car wash mag I listen to what he has to say. Of course Im not taking everything he says as 100% otherwise I would be buying all his product only.

    I would love to attend a detailing seminar one day just to see what its like or even go out and hang with another detailer. I have never done that so I think I could learn alot from doing that.
    Interesting as I find his posts outdated, condecending, and redundant. I`m curious what he said about waterless washes? My short phone call with him was enough to learn that he`s VERY old school (which doesn`t have to be a bad thing) but he bashes EVERYTHING that isn`t except the new 3M films. My guess is he sells it too, but I might be wrong. I`d like to see his columns to see what he has to say! Where do I find one of these magazines...?
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    You can get a free subscription of the magazine at
    http:// www.carwash.com

    You just have to fill out a survey and they`ll start mailing it to you in about a month or so.

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    Thank you Bill, I appreciate your help.
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    Rhillstr,

    If you`d like to view some of Bud`s articles instead of waiting for the magazine, go to this link: http://www.carwash.com/news.asp?mode=3&NC_ID=24

    Then start searching through the detailing article archives which go all the way back to 1998. Lots of BudA articles there...

    Onthespot

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    I never heard of the guy and I`m pretty new to detailing, but it sounds like one of those infomercials that would be on past 2 a.m. on one of those channels that u just happen to see while your surfing by. (does Ronco ring a bell)

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    You are correct..., Buda is a walking/talking infomercial. He is "old school" in his beliefs of chemicals.
    As paints have changed over the last 50 years, so has detailing products..., and for the better.
    Follow ome of his posts. The bottom line is, he thinks ALL detailing products are exactly the same, only labeled differently.
    WHAT A JOKE HE IS!!!

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    Red face Bud A Seminars

    I have read all your emails with regard to Bud A seminars and I find it pretty sad that all you got out of what he shared with you is he is trying to sell his products. That he is an A###hole, he is oppinonated. You think all the major brands of products are looking out for your best interest and not trying to sell you their products.
    Maguairs charges $ 45 for a seminar to sell you their latest products and Buds is $225 and he is sharing ways for you to be more productive and make more money. He is very passionate and professional about the Detail industry, and donates alot of his time and energy in keeping everyone interested in this business educated and up to date so that you can be successful if you choose to. This is the type of person I prefer to listen to about my business and not an order taker who shows up at my door to sell me their latest product.
    We have been in business for 18 years, With that said, I say this with personal claim. In 1999 my husband and I attended our first WCA Convention and Trade show in Las Vegas we attended Bud A all day seminar. We took what we learned from Bud A and implemented in our business, we took our gross from 85k year to 180k to date we have increased our revenue by 300%. I can honestly say, every Seminar we attend of Bud A has brought us more professionalism and revenue. We charge for our services, average detail $250 -$350, added other profit centers, paint sealants, annual revenue of $70k. This year we have gross revenue over $300k, I do not know any supplier who has ever helped me or anyone accomplish that. We are a mom & pop operation.

    What we have learned we also enjoy sharing with other professional detailers and want to learn from you as well. Should anyone have any questions, feel free to email me. info@everydetailautocare.com

    If you really are interested in increasing your business revenue, you should attend the ICA Convention and Trade show next year. Meeting with other Detailers from all over is a wealth of information and pays off.

    Not only do I attend the Conventions, I also volunteer my time to the educational sessions on Detail. I have spoke on Marketing and Promoting Your Detailing Business, Increase your Bottom Line with Additional Services, Attracting More Customers and many others. I do not benefit from any of this except to help others in the industry to become more successful.

    I would hope that these forums are for positive feedback and not to talk poorly of an industry leader. Sometimes we need to step back and really take a look at why we as detailers, have a hard time with new information and change. As business owners, we can only learn by opening our minds to new procedures, technology and education. These things are found by listening to the Bud A`s and other successful detail business owners.

    What we have tried to do in our business, is take one thing that we learned and implement it and see if it works for us. So far that has worked. I would rather spend the energy sharing success stories than negativety about any one who is willing to share professional information for the better of your business.

    All the information that is shared by all is just our opions and what has worked for us. You can use it our not, just be kind to those who are sharing, some will find the information useful.

    Just for the record, not everything Bud A has to say is the way to do business, he has been successful, he has helped others become successful and he has alot of knowledge to share with all who truly want to listen.

    Diana B
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    Chair- Professional Detail Advisory Council - ICA



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    well bud can count on at least one person going to his seminar lol

    hey if you want to go , then go, what he teaches and his marketing ideas are the same stuff that guy who sells seminars to real estate agents, cpa`s, or any other service for that matter, it all comes down to selling yourself. you can go to a real estate seminar and hear the same lines except with the words house, and curb appeal. thrown in instead of paint sealant or wax. you can go buy tons of great books on buisness and marketing by some of the greatest minds in the world, none of this a a giant secret.

    many people on here dont like his style or personality and thats fine, its your choice and your money. just look for a seminar leader whose style you like, nothing wrong with that. i just wouldnt give my hard earned money to this fella, hes just not my cup of tea.

    bud a is just looking to make some money like meguairs, automagic etc. its all about the benjamins.

    if he is so passionate about helping others , a industry leader , and is such a big sucess then how come he doesn`t give his seminar for free? like some of the other great business icons in our society, who share the knowledge for NOTHING, they compensation is knowing they are helping other people prosper in there given industry.

    if he truly wants to give back, teach, and help others learn about detailing there wouldnt be a price tag at the end of his web page.

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    Sorry but I have to continue to disagree with you on this.
    I don`t care how long you have been a pro or what you know, there is NO REASON to be condescending to another person who asks your advice. I have seen him posts comments to people who respectfully disagree with him like, "you obviously don`t know what you`re doing". The comment was made in response to a fairly common compound question. It was totally uncalled for. Also, his articles and comments are common sense. I have yet to have him reveal a great tip to anyone. I guess you have to pay $225 dollars to learn new things.
    On the other hand, here at DC many well respect pros like Anthony Orosco, Boss, Natty, Poorboy, and more regularly post great answers, entertain new ideas, and do it all with a humble and admirable attitude. My hat is off them as REAL pros....
    Sorry, I guess I have had enough and he is the primary reason I left a couple other detailing web boards.
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    I`ve spoke to Bud on the phone a few tims and he is a true salemen with one expection. He does knock the other products out there and that alone cheapens his sale ability. I was a sale trainer for many years and know when I`m being worked.

    I asked about one of his extractors and was hounded with e-mail until I told him stop and then I put him on the block list

    A bit to aggressive for me, also he said that most all his biz is over seas setting up car detailing facuilies
    Old Enough To Know Better, Too Stupid To Care....

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    not just the guys from otb lol there all over they got money to burn they dont need 225 buks that wont even buy them dinner.

    Bud A can go sell his ice to the eskimo`s

    i like your guys advice much much better

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    I tend to agree with Robert here. Bud has run some very knowledgable people of the webcars site with his emails. I don`t claim to be knowledgable when it comes to detailing but I no longer visit the webcars site either. Professional, I question (MPO) and I hardly feel passionate applies here eiter because I also saw the post that Robert was talking about and thought it was uncalled for.

    A while back there was a discussion on the webcars site about carpet shampoos and I said something about mine. I received an email from Bud that I no longer have but it went something like this........ No carpet shampoo, even an extractor shampoo mixes to 1oz per gallon of water. Even extractor shampoos mix to 1oz per 64oz. of water. You either need to reread the label or get yourself a new shampoo. He didn`t even bother to ask what I was using. Doesn`t sound very professional or passionate to me. I kinda felt like he was calling me stupid. Many of my carpet care products come from a janitorial supply company!

    When I emailed him a response and gave him the website that my carpet care products come from, I got a song and dance from him that he was referring to fricton shampoos or something like that. Anyway, that is past history but his latest email to me is what did me in for the webcars site.

    I`m glad that Bud has helped you and wish nothing but the best for both of you. I have lost much respect for Bud in that he chooses to respond to posts via email rather that on the message boards that they are posted on. I wonder why?

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    I see Bud`s advice as good and sensible 99% of the time. His facts arent the problem its his condescending tone when he talks to us. I have told him in more than one post that he treats us like were all fools and we dont enjoy it, it seemed to kinda bounce right off him though. lol


    I dont get too worried about his arrogant attitude, instead I try to learn as much from his posts as I can and I do my best to ingore his rudeness. He seems to make good, logical sense with his advice when you look at the facts only and not his style of saying it.

    As far as his articles in the wash magazines, I really enjoy reading them. They are the highlight of the whole publication in my opinion.

    I guess it like that old saying "you can win the battle but still lose the war". :duel He will agrue about an issue to the point that the other person just gives up and walks away. While he feels he vindicates himself and proves how right he always has to be he instead makes everyone so mad that they have forgotten what the real point was and all they remember was how overbearing he was and that they never want to talk to him again. I overlook it most of the time because I believe the guy really is worth learning from but I can see how it has pushed many people away from the other forums and his company.

    LOL Its like argueing with my wife, its totally pointless! lol


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    Arguing with your wife. Beautiful analogy John. Yes Bud has shed some light on many issues for me but I guess it all goes back to basic economics. What does he get out of it. He doesn`t go to the site to get advice obviously so he is either there to stroke his ego or drum up biz (or both). Either way it`s pointless to have discussions with him, civil or not.

    It`s too bad and like I said, Anthony has given just as much great advice, if not more and kept a very humble attitude about it. He was also featured in that magazine too, if i remember correctly.
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    Hello folks,

    I have seen this thread for awhile now and I read the first few posts then stopped reading. I have held back from commenting because it is not my goal in detailing, life, business nor this forum to speak in a negative manner about another.

    Bud is a very opinionated person who is also very passionate about auto detailing. Put those two together and the result is someone who always wants to be right, it is just the way it is. These types are prideful, at times arrogant and they seek to go above and beyond not because they truly seek to help and aide others but rather they do it for the admiration and recogniton from others.

    It is not necessarily a bad thing to have these qualities, I mean we all seek to have recognition, we all seek to get a pat on the back for the hard work we do, I mean that`s why many (including me) post up pictures of our BEFORE and AFTER work, and there is nothing wrong with that BUT if one seeks to degrade others (in the area of detailing) because they use a different product or a different technique, of because they may not know the chemical break down of a certain product they are using is not being constructive but rather destructive. I always welcome constructive criticism on my work and always seek to give it, because this is how one grows and learns, that is if they can accept that criticism.

    Bud does have great knowledge but I believe the problem is is that he knows it. He and I have butted heads on many points and we have also agreed on many points. Those we disagree on are mainly when I give others advice about what products to use. He is a salesman and pushes his products, no debate there, but we should expect that because he is seeking to make a living. The problem arises when he puts down others for using these other products, or the products alone. He gets defensive if someone calls his stuff "junk" so he should not do so with other products. I have also received e-mails from Bud, as has a very close friend, and basically, from what I grasp from some of these e-mails, is that Bud seeks to do away with mobile detailers and if they are allowed they need to be trained and licensed and certified. Who would offer this training. license and certification? Well Bud would of course.

    But again we can`t blame Bud for his vision, even though logic would say it is ridiculous and perhaps impossible to accomplish, because we all have dreams and visions but this again shows how Bud is first a salesman. We can`t blame him for that.

    I look at his advice as "take some and leave some". Not all of his advice is sound and one must use discernment to tell what is and what is not. Would I pay over $200 to attend his seminar? I doubt it. I was thinking about giving a hands on seminar also but I would only charge about $75 per person and instead of sell "MY" products I would use a variety of products from different companies and speak about each ones pros and cons but then I thought, "Anthony, just who in the hell do you thing you are?" So I dropped that idea. I am not saying I would not attend because I have a beef with Bud (because I don`t) but because I would rather work myself and make $200 or $300 detailing a car!

    In closing I would like to thank those who consider my advice as something to give heed to, I appreciate that. I also wish to make it known that while I have a personal friendship with Irene Bernardo from Top of the Line, I also have a business relationship with her for over 12 years now and as many of you know I use many of the products she carries and give her website as a source to get products BUT I do not work FOR Irene nor Top of the Line. I push her products just as I do the products Dwayne carries because I believe in them and they are great people to work with. I have sent Irene a great deal of business but I pay for ALL of my orders just as everyone else who orders from her, just as I do with Dwayne.

    Well I have ranted on long enough, I thank you all for your time.

    Anthony
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