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    Hoping for a sunny day rtbrick's Avatar
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    spray wax vs QD with wax

    What are the differences between a spray wax product (such as 4Star`s or one the wax as u dry sprays) and a QD that contains wax (such as PBs QD or EF Clear Pearl)? I guess I`m looking for the true intended purpose of these products.

    I see a QD as a product that adds the finishing touch of gloss to your already prep`d and protected finish. Spray waxes would add a touch up mainly to the protection factor and some inherent shine from the wax. Throw in QDs that contain wax and I begin to get a little confused on the intended purpose. Now mix in some of PBs S&W (like some have stated) and I`m really wondering what`s happening.

    Though we like to reduce the number of steps to a great finish, it seems to me that these steps (QD, quick protection, waterless wash) should all be kept separate. Combining them would reduce overall effectiveness.
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    I haven`t tried every QD with carnuba, or spray wax, but, in my opinion, the sprays with significant carnuba like PB`s do not leave quite the clarity of finish of the best QDs like Platinum or Z6. I like to use a QD with carnuba when i`m taking a long trip and I want a sacrificial layer of protection for my sealer or if my wax is getting weak in an area and I need to buy a few week`s time before the next real detail. But for sheer looks, nothin like a high-end straight QD.

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    I`d be inclined to agree with ACE (yet again). I don`t really use PB QD+ as a traditional QD, more as a spray wax. I cover the whole vehicle then come back and buff off the hazed product. IMO, used this way it sure does add a "pop" to the finish but since we`re talking tradtional spray on/wipe off and shine type QD applications here, I won`t count it in the mix. But if you want to give your vehicle a coat of wax and have it glowing in about 15 minutes, QD+ is hard to beat.

    For traditional QD I mostly use One Grand Showoff (carnauba based), Platinum QD and Mother`s Showtime. Of these, I think Mother`s Showtime produces the best reflective gloss. Platinum QD is by far the slickest that I`ve used and OGSO has a nice warm shine to it which goes really nice with carnauba finishes. Plus, like QD+ it will add a bit to the carnauba sacrificial layer (though not nearly as much as QD+).
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    Hoping for a sunny day rtbrick's Avatar
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    I suppose the issue with QDs containing carnuba is the actual durability of the wax layer. Can`t be much. Not much wax to begin with. I`m in the midst of trying several QD products in an effort to find the one I like. I`ll have to try the One Grand QD.

    Natty, after using both Showtime and UGE, I find that UGE provides a good deal more shine. I`m using mySilver (light pewter actually) truck as the test bed. Your truck is Red, right? Wonder if that makes a difference.

    Just as some waxes seem to be almost "color dependent" in a sense, does anyone think particular QDs work better on certain colors?

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    why use a spray wax when you can finish just as fast with some S100, I don`t think any spray wax or QD will beat this.

    Adding a QD to S&W is great when your car is just slightly dirty, more dirty than you might want to QD and less dirty than an all out wash. If the car is dirty I will use S&W and then a QD after.

    Natty I agree the mothers does have a nice gloss, if you like that check out the Quikshine which is easier to use and glossier, like showtime on steroids.

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    Originally posted by NattyBumppo
    But if you want to give your vehicle a coat of wax and have it glowing in about 15 minutes, QD+ is hard to beat.
    I agree! For possibly even more durability, and maybe an even nicer look, I like to mist a clean foam applicator with some S & W, and apply a light coat of the QD+ to the entire vehicle without removing. Then, let it sit in the shade for a couple of hours, and remove with an MF lightly misted with some Mothers Showtime.

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    I S&W my truck every day and don`t use any other QD....except.....I`ll use a PB QD+ and S&W mix tomorrow prior to the car show for the extra shine I think it gives me.

    I don`t even think about protection. I`m going to be wiping something on that sucker every darned day and will probably EX or wax it within a couple of weeks tops. In the winter coming I`ll be rubbing on her even more often as I woefully look at my baby parked in the garage while I drive my ole 87 beater around in the ice/snow/salt.
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    Anybody tried Meguiar`s Quik Wax? I got a sampler, but haven`t tried it yet, and was wondering what other people`s impressions were.

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    If a QD is added to S&W, wouldn`t that dilute the effectiveness of one or the other?

    Quickshine is on my list to purchase.

    I used EF Clear Pearl today with pleasant results. Just a tad bit "gooey" compared to UGE or Mothers. I`ve heard QD+ is even worse, yet easy enough to work with.
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    Originally posted by 2wheelsx2
    Anybody tried Meguiar`s Quik Wax? I got a sampler, but haven`t tried it yet, and was wondering what other people`s impressions were.
    I have a bottle(no surprise there). It works but can be more work than a QD. I use a damp MF to wipe it down.
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    Originally posted by NozeBleedSpeed
    I have a bottle(no surprise there).
    I`d be disappointed if you didn`t!

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    Originally posted by rtbrick
    If a QD is added to S&W, wouldn`t that dilute the effectiveness of one or the other?
    I would think that one would have to take a little away from the other................ but probably not much. I`ve finally settled in on the following:

    S & W full strength for dust and dirt.
    A mix of 80% QD with 20% S & W for final QD.

    20% of the S & W doesn`t seem to take much away from the gloss of the QD, and adds a little additional cleaning (just in case).

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    Originally posted by Thomasfl
    why use a spray wax when you can finish just as fast with some S100, I don`t think any spray wax or QD will beat this.

    Agreed no spray or "quick wax" is going to match S100 but I can`t do my entire truck in S100 in 20 minutes. With QD+ I can.

    RT....good point re: different colors and how various products respond. Makes sense to me.
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